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   12-20-2005, 12:08 AM
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Who are the world's best armwrestlers?
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I am interested in finding out who are the best armwrestlers in various weight classes.  If you have an opinion, please share it!


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   12-20-2005, 1:35 PM
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The list is long in fact too long for me to even attempt it. I consider myself to be somewhere in the pack and if someone gets me excited enough who knows. At present no one has actually gotten them all together to find out although there has been some sorting. There is only one that has repeatedly shown that he can beat the best and that is John Brzenk jr. I dont think it is just that he is stronger than anyone else and I am sure he would agree but he has done it so long and has such an arsenal of different ways he can pull on someone with a very good hook base that he is the only solid pick. All the rest have weaknesses which John has pretty much exploited. Andrey Junkov on the left hand if he could stay on cycle like he was in Briansk lefthanded but he knows that was enhancements lol. We nicknamed him Hollywood some years back because of the sunglasses and truthful way he went about it. He was so strong in the Briansk tourney that the only way anyone would have beat him lefthanded was either with a stick or to take his hand and hang on for 20 minutes or so. Alan Kareav is coming back in the picture and we will see how these others that are healing come along. No one that I know has ever stayed healthy enough for long enough to be the best except John B. Travis Bagent seems to be staying healthy but his hook needs work apparently. It is just to complicated to name a list because of the length of it not wanting to leave out anyone who could bust a podium spot on any given day. I have wrestled alot of them in the USA and Europe but for the most part that was all before I had the broken bones removed from my elbow. I am even a different person now although I am older and as John I have been sitting around soaking up any weakness any of them might have. I guess I would make a pretty good coach but I still want to pull hehe. Heck there is even a guy with your name Sergey from the Ukraine. He has a wicked hook and a great will and hit if he can keep people in there but his weakness is his toproll. He has a teamate named Taras Ivankin who is that toproll but If someone shows as much top as Taras and gets a strap match with him he has not had many people put him in the straps and it is a different world. That is his weakness. So many people and so many variations of greatness. I wouldnt begin to try and categorize them all. sorry.


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   12-20-2005, 7:27 PM
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I was checking out another website and they kept talking about Travis Bagent, so I was under the impression that he was pretty good.  I guess I am just surprised that there is not a "best" armwrestler sort of like in boxing, but I guess this is more like baseball where even the best teams fall sometimes.  Does Brzenk armwrestle regularly?  It is hard to imagine that he is so good since he looks like a normal guy, ya know? 


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   12-21-2005, 9:20 PM
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Re: Who are the world's best armwrestlers?
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Just to throw out a couple of names:

Brzenk

Dean

Bagent

Randall

Espey

Bath

Don Underwood (although I haven't seen him in a while)

Britton Matthews (good puller, young, but haven't seen him in a while either)

All are heavyweights.


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   12-25-2005, 9:26 AM
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For what it is worth, I believe that the Guinness Book of World Records lists John Brzenk as the best armwrestler ever.  I would definitely concur in that!  The guy is unstoppable no matter what his weight is. 
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   12-28-2005, 6:11 PM
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Yes Brzenk is listed in the Guinness book as you stated.  Pretty amazing arm wrestler. 
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   12-30-2005, 3:22 PM
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They are all pretty astounding and only a handful have any prior wins over John B. I know that it is a rare instance that he loses a match. Most of the time it is because he enters so many classes and just gets tired down and once in a while he has injury as well. I think straight up fresh you could count less than 10 people who have ever stepped up and beaten him. One would probably be Mr. Ron Bath even though he is older he has risen to this occasion and Johnny Walker . I am pretty sure Cleve Dean has gained a win this way. Matt Girdner gained a win I believe but then he came back and beat him. I am thinking John has the ability to apply pressure from so many different angles that if you beat him one way , the next match will be from such a different angle that unless you have walked that mile in his shoes you will surely find yourself in a bad position. His backpressure is so strong I watched him literally lift Marcio Barbosa's elbow while toprolling and he couldnt stop him. Also from that position he has this ability to apply extreme side pressure which allows him to basically toproll someone and then high hook them down if need be. All we can do is to keep working to gain such a strength . In order to be the man you have to beat the man so everyone take note. You need the full package inside and out. It could take a while but I am a firm believer that anything one seeks >>>one shall find as long as you want it bad enough.
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   01-01-2006, 10:20 PM
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I don't really know how much this helps, but this is a rankings that was put together a while back but does not appear to have been updated in a while. 

http://www.pinarm.com/Rankings/Rankings.htm

 


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   01-02-2006, 11:47 AM
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Those rankings are interesting, but like you said I do not think they have been updated in a while.  They don't even list Todd Hutchings in the 90kg men or Cleve Dean in the unlimited men, but they are definitely a good start.  Thanks for the link.
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   01-07-2006, 12:34 AM
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I think that hands down Travis Bagent is the king.  I love the way the guy brings some life and energy to the sport!  Brzenk might be classy, but what this sport needs is some major personality!!!!
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   01-12-2006, 10:31 PM
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The idea that there is merely one "best" armwrestler in the world is probably a fictional one.  Both because there are weight classes and because who is "best" varies by match in a way that is similar to a baseball best of 7 series, it is nearly impossible for someone to never lose.  In fact, it often happens that Person A loses to Person B in a tournament only to go through the loser's bracket and beat Person B in the finals; such is armwrestling. 

However, there is a clearly "elite" group of wrestlers, each of which may lay legitimate claim to the idea that they are in fact the "best."  Those wrestlers include those listed earlier in this thread.  It is my own personal opinion that Travis Bagent, John Brzenk, and, more recently, Jerry Caddorrette (sp) are the best of the best in the Heavyweight division. 


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   04-16-2006, 10:25 AM
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John Brzenk, if you haven't been to http://pullingjohn.com/  you need to check out this website, it's got tons of videos, rankings (updated regularly last update 14Mar06) awesome site.......here is the rankings for top 20 armwrestlers in North America according to pullingjohn.com

North America top 20
RK NAME PREV.
1. John Brzenk 1
2. Travis Bagent 2
3. Devon Larratt 4
4. Michael Todd 13
5. Ron Bath 3
6. Marcio Barboza 5
7. Matt Girdner 6
8. Eric Woelfel 7
9. Todd Hutchings 8
10. Dave Randall 9
11. Jerry Cadorette 10
12. Harold Owens 11
13. Cleve Dean 12
14. Robbie Topi -
15. Ryan Espey 14
16. Sylvain Perron 18
17. Tom Nelson 16
18. Tim Bresnan 19
19. Bob Schaffer -
20. Brian Brandon 20

Dropped out: Dan Victor (15), Paul Walther (17)


Last updated: March 31, 2006


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   08-05-2007, 8:40 PM
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Nick Zinna is pretty good and super nice guy, Micheal Todd, a retired Jerry Janning, and a guy that hasnt pulled in 20 years, some of you may remember Richard lupkes < the guy is amazingly huge, and if you look him up on youtube, unstoppable, people said that in his day nobody could stop him
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   08-11-2007, 10:20 PM
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Everybody says John Brzenk is the best, but I've seen two youtube video's where he arm wrestles Alexey Voevoda, and he loses both of them. Voevoda is the best, but he is bigger than John, John is probably the best in his weight class.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f4CsSYxZjQ4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XWX3yJ94WRc

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   11-11-2007, 5:33 PM
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Alexey Voevoda is definitely the world's best armwrestler

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   12-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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Brzenk is the greatest ever.  Of course he has lost some matches over the years.  Now that armwrestling is getting more popular, the new guys only see todays best and dont realize the 20plus years of dominance for Brzenk.

John is 42 years old and the only ones that beat him today are half his age and 50 pounds larger.  And even still has winning records over all of them.

The best heavy weights today are John Brzenk, Farid Usmanov, Andre Pushkar, Travis Badget

John just beat Farid and Andre in Dec at Poland.  

As far as Alexy Voevoda.  Your are right He beat John twice when John weigh 209 and was injured.  FUNNY how there has been several attempts to get these two together again and Alexy keeps saying NO.

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   12-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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Sorry, I didn't know that Brzenk was injured when he lost to Voevoda, in what way was he injured? Voevoda is still good, though, on the Pulling John website it says that Voevoda and Bagent are John's only rivals. Allen Fisher is also really good for the 160 weight and so is Corey Miller.

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