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02-01-2007, 3:13 PM allah Joined on 02-02-2007 Posts 1 NEED HELPPPP!! (grudge match) I am versing a guy about 40 pounds heavier and a foot taller than me. I beat him like 1/10 times and it gets a bit embarrasing. I beat MANY people other than him, i even beat my P.E teacher (black belt). and im like 60 pound lighter than him. i tried hooking the guy and i tried toprolling him but most times he won't budge! I know i have more bicept muscles than him. what should i do????    Report

02-05-2007, 9:31 PM Gregory Joined on 12-13-2005 Posts 9 Re: NEED HELPPPP!! (grudge match) First thing is to get him on a regulation table.  When you armwrestle other places, guys just slide their elbows a lot, which negates any advantage you can gain.  By armwrestling on a table, you ensure that their elbow cannot travel - it makes it a lot easier to take them down.  There are a lot of techniques you could try.  One you could do is to try to really surprise him and give him a huge burst as soon as the match starts.  To do this, you should remain completely relaxed before the match begins.  This way, he won't be able to give you any resistance.  If you can surge with a ton of force before he can react, you can pin him in no time flat!  Another is to really concentrate on getting out on his fingers.  He will be gripping your hand tight.  Take advantage of that and just let go with your hand.  Don't make it obvious, but let go.  You will gradually start sliding out on his fingers.  When you do get out a ways so that his weakest link is his wrist because he cannot really use his bicep anymore, clamp down with your fingers, lean in with your shoulder, and press him to the ground.  Also remember to ALWAYS keep your should as close to your hand as possible.  Never let that gap open more than a few inches, or else you will lose your strength.  Also remember to pry his hand as far away from his shoulder as possible. There are also psychological tactics you can take.  Build his confidence up a lot before the match, let him know he will probably win easily, make it so that he is wrestling with nothing to win and everything to lose since he is expected to win.  This will likely relax him.  One of my favorite lines is something to the effect of "I know you are gonna kill me.  I just hope we both get out of this without breaking our arms like I have seen on TV before."  This last part about breaking your arm really takes the wind out of a competitor's sails!  I have literally slammed people's hands into bar tables so hard that their knuckles are bleeding using exactly the mental tricks I referenced above. Good luck, and let me know how it goes!    Report

02-10-2007, 12:10 AM griffkev Joined on 02-10-2007 Posts 5 Re: NEED HELPPPP!! (grudge match) Hi Allah. I think Gregory is pretty much right.  Really try to jump out early and surge as hard as you can as quick as you can.  If you saw the tournament that was recently on tv, you will see one puller who really just surges well.  I cannot remember his name but he won his weight class.  He just coils up and it looks like a cannon being shot off when he released at the start.  His opponent doesn't even stand a chance.  That is the best way to win these types of matches in my opinion.     Report

05-09-2007, 6:19 PM KangaRooted Joined on 12-24-2006 Australia Posts 12 Re: NEED HELPPPP!! (grudge match) Hi Allah, I also agree with the 2 previous posts in theory.  One thing you may need to look at is your apponents strength.  Consider that some people have no real technique but just brute strength.  If you cannot match their power, you are going to struggle.  Without seeing you I believe 40 pounds can be a lot of weight to give up at the arm wrestling table.  I know that you said that you have beaten people 60 pounds heavier than you but I feel that they may have had what I like to call "custard arms"  - probably all show and no go.  I believe your arm-wrestling buddy may have a bit more power than some of the other people you have armwrestled and in your mind you may be thinking "I should be able to beat this guy because I have beaten people heavier than him".  Unfortunately not all men are created equal and it comes out in arm-wrestling among other things.  I was on the other side of what your talking about here.  I weigh 105Kg's (about 230 pounds) and armwrestled one of my pals that is about 82 kilograms (180 pounds).  I struggled a great deal to overcome my apponent and could not work out why (in my mind, I should have flogged this guy).  He was the athletic type - recall you may have seen in posts that more often than not, athletic types and trademen seem to arm-wrestle better than others.  After this close win, I trained very hard trying to improve my weak points - in particular my wrists and fingers and a bit of forearms.  We have arm- wrestled since and  I now destroy the same person that used to put up a good fight and I believe it is because of the improvments I made strength wise I am not saying that strength is everything in arm-wrestling, but it certainly counts.  If it didnt, then there would be no weight categories in arm sports.  Also a 100 pound girl would beat a 300 pound guy if her technique was good enough regardless of her strength.  We all know the chances of this happening are highly unlikley.  I think your not too far away from a win and while what others have suggested in this post will definately help, I believe its only half of what you need.  I'd build some strength in your forearms and wrists.  Make your opponents weaknesses your strengths.  Once again, this is a guess, but I reckon you opponent is stronger at the wrist, fingers or forearms.  You need to change this.  If your technique is good, you dont have to be stronger than your opponent, just need to get close to his strength in these areas - enough to be able to hold against him (being stronger would be better if possible).  Then you can let your technique do the work.  Also, keep arm-wrestling other people - not easy beats.  If you continually have hard arm-wrestles (some you just win and some you just lose), you will improve over time as well.  I hope this will help you to get up over you opponent. GOOD LUCK (P.S.  I am from Australia - I hope you understood everything I wrote.  We Aussies have some strange slang  :-P  )      Report

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